Discussion in 'Music' started by Shatner, Nov 1, 2016.
Pure ignorance... At least you bothered to include Master of Reality.
The singer is Tony Martin. I think the idea was to try and be more marketable because their album sales in the 80s were abysmal after Dio left, so they basically became a hair metal occult band for a little while.
Shit... I didn't even really know that. I'm spotty on Sabbath though. They are one of my favorite bands, but I pretty much listen to Paranoid through Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Mob Rules. There are some pretty bad Sabbath albums out there. I'm not crazy about Vol 4 either.
I guess the difference is mine are actual albums I own sitting on my bed, not internet pictures! You go get the perfect collection.
Honestly they should have went into instrumental jam session concerts after Dio and never got a singer. Don't even bother with studio stuff unless there's actually enough good stuff around just release live albums. It would have been a strange format but I think it would have served them well.
Nobody even cares about the bad Sabbath albums though ... they are still legends because of the ones that matter.
I have Sabbath Bloody Sabbath on Vinyl.
But seriously, there are albums that stand up to Sabbath. Sleep, early Soundgarden, Monster Magnet, Mastodon, Elder, etc.
Different people's definition of "stoner metal" varies. To some it's fuzzy Sabbath based guitars... to others it's simply proggy/psychedelic metal.
Instrumental jam session concerts? They had recording contracts to fulfill Winbot, the record companies never would have gone for it.
The song I linked is the title track from the Headless Cross album, it was their first for IRS Records after Warner dropped them from the label for not selling enough records. But they had to make them record something in the studio! Reportedly, Iommi wanted every album after Born Again (1983) to be a solo album consisting of instrumental tracks but Warner (and later IRS) insisted that he slap the Black Sabbath name on it because guys like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani weren't popular yet and instrumental rock in general wasn't even really its own genre. His solution was to hire Tony Martin and have him imitate Dio as much as possible. Headless Cross is intriguing to me because, as Shatner pointed out, it isn't really "doom" metal at all, more like hair metal instrumentation with occult lyrics.
Here you are. I know all you guys probably love Phil.
2017 will see new albums from Mastodon, Elder, and Sleep.
I am giddy.
You probably aren't ready for Al Cisneros distilled to his purest form. Headphones and high volume and recommended. Also... drugs.
Old Elder is about Conan. We need more music about Conan.
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