Gun Community Rant Thread

Discussion in 'Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms' started by Winbot, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Nils

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    Kaw Valley linear compensator?
     
  2. Surt

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    Yes, actually. I started with a PWS CQB, but I really don't want to spend 1/2 as much for a muzzle device as I do for the entire upper.
     
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    Put a KAC triple tap on there, then it'll actually cost more than your upper!
     
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    OPERATOR OPERATOR OPERATOR OPERATOR
     
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    God damn it. Now I'm starting to see .224 Valkyrie noobs popping up in my Long Range Shooter groups humble bragging and effort posting about their latest AR builds in .224 Valkyrie.
    "Here it is guys! I can't wait to shoot it!"
     
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    A good buddy that I grew up with and reconnected with on Facebook just went full Fudd on the gun control issue. He's a typical good ol' country boy, hunts, shoots guns and such, but posted earlier that we should do away with AR-15s but keep other guns. I don't discuss politics on Facebook anymore, so I just posted a video of me overhead pressing 120lb and 125lb for 10s. Something he can't do. We're the same age.
     
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    This one has been making the rounds yet again and it causes endless fudd brain damage

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    I'm getting sick of this "Greetings fellow gun owners" shit. It's always some middle aged white dude on twitter who probably has a revolver from his grandpa that he doesn't own bullets for, or that he shot a .410 with his cousins at some cabin a few decades ago.
     
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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/nra-financial-trouble-706371/

    The NRA Says It’s in Deep Financial Trouble, May Be ‘Unable to Exist’

    A new legal filing by the powerful gun group against the state of New York paints a grim picture

    By Tim Dickinson

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    The National Rifle Association warns that it is in grave financial jeopardy, according to a recent court filing obtained by Rolling Stone, and that it could soon “be unable to exist… or pursue its advocacy mission.” (Read the NRA’s legal complaint at the bottom of this story.)

    The reason, according to the NRA filing, is not its deep entanglement with alleged Russian agents like Maria Butina. Instead, the gun group has been suing New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and the state’s financial regulators since May, claiming the NRA has been subject to a state-led “blacklisting campaign” that has inflicted “tens of millions of dollars in damages.”

    In the new document — an amended complaint filed in U.S. District Court in late July — the NRA says it cannot access financial services essential to its operations and is facing “irrecoverable loss and irreparable harm.”

    Specifically, the NRA warns that it has lost insurance coverage — endangering day-to-day operations. “Insurance coverage is necessary for the NRA to continue its existence,” the complaint reads. Without general liability coverage, it adds, the “NRA cannot maintain its physical premises, convene off-site meetings and events, operate educational programs … or hold rallies, conventions and assemblies.”

    The complaint says the NRA’s video streaming service and magazines may soon shut down.

    “The NRA’s inability to obtain insurance in connection with media liability raises risks that are especially acute; if insurers remain afraid to transact with the NRA, there is a substantial risk that NRATV will be forced to cease operating.” The group also warns it “could be forced to cease circulation of various print publications and magazines.”

    In addition to its insurance troubles, the NRA court filing also claims that “abuses” by Cuomo and the New York State Department of Financial Services “will imminently deprive the NRA of basic bank-depository services … and other financial services essential to the NRA’s corporate existence.”

    President Donald Trump leaves the stage after addressing the National Rifle Association convention in Dallas, May 4, 2018. Trump began his remarks by hailing a number of Republican politicians in attendance, voicing full support for Sen. Ted Cruz in his bid for re-election. (Tom Brenner/The New York Times)

    The lawsuit presents these financial risks as catastrophic. Without access to routine banking services, the NRA claims, “it will be unable to exist as a not-for-profit or pursue its advocacy mission.” The lawsuit accuses New York’s government of seeking to “silence one of America’s oldest constitutional rights advocates,” pleading to the court: “If their abuses are not enjoined, they will soon, substantially, succeed.”

    The lawsuit stems from actions taken by New York financial regulators to halt the sale of an illegal, NRA-branded insurance policy. The NRA actively marketed “Carry Guard,” a policy to reimburse members for legal costs incurred after firing a legal gun. In May, the state of New York found that Carry Guard “unlawfully provided liability insurance to gun owners for certain acts of intentional wrongdoing.” The NRA’s insurance partners agreed to stop selling the policies and pay a $7 million fine.

    The NRA complaint alleges that New York was not content to block this single insurance product, but instead campaigned to sever the NRA’s ties to a wide range of financial service providers, from insurance companies to banks.

    The NRA did not respond to a request for more detail about its financial distress, but its most recent financial disclosure also shows it overspent by nearly $46 million in 2016.

    The lawsuit decries pressure from state regulators in the wake of the Parkland, Florida massacre — including a letter asking financial institutions to heed “the voices of the passionate, courageous, and articulate young people who have experienced this recent horror first hand” — and from the governor himself. In April, Cuomo tweeted: “I urge companies in New York State to revisit any ties they have to the NRA and consider their reputations, and responsibility to the public.”

    In its complaint, the NRA paints these actions as a “malicious conspiracy to stifle the NRA’s speech and induce a boycott of the NRA.” Cuomo and state regulators, the NRA alleges, were intent on “suppressing the NRA’s pro-Second Amendment viewpoint” and had engaged in “unlawful conduct with the intent to obstruct, chill, deter, and retaliate against the NRA’s core political speech.”
     
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    There is zero reason for this to be happening the way it is. The NRA is too full of boomers who are way behind on the times, moving at a snail's pace. Wayne had a fiery speech this year I'll give him that but representation is too stagnant the way the NRA currently operates, especially with the amount of money they bring in.
     
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    >10 bucks to ship gun from their distributor to the store

    r u srs
     
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    So I had a huge boner for the Hudson but I got to play with and shoot one recently. Kind of disappointing. Ejection was really weak and unpredictable. Magazines seem kind of shitty too, dimple in the rear and the surface finish wears very easily. I still want one! Very shootable and would certainly fill my want for a full steel auto... but my cash will have to be more disposable before I buy one.
     
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    Weren't they supposed to use some other gun's mags? I thought it was really shitty of Hudson to make it use proprietary ones
     
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    Just wait for Gen2!
     
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    Why is it so fucking hard to make a good gun.
     
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    There are all kinds of good guns! It's difficult to create one that addresses an unmet need while being reliable and economical.
     
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    In a word... testing. You have to test every single phase from first prototype to first production run for tens of thousands of rounds and be prepared to make design changes at every phase. If you have high capital investment tooling on the line, like injection molding or MIM tools, the stakes are very high. Things change between prototype and production tooling, you get tolerance stackups that you didn't anticipate, little things like the way parts are loaded into the heat treat oven can change their distortion or internal stresses and cause unexpected failures.

    Honestly, for a startup making a product based on a fairly novel concept, they did an amazing job. The last time that happened was KRISS (interestingly, the muzzle-rise reducing innovations of both concepts is fairly pointless).

    The body was based on a S&W mag, I believe. Companies make proprietary magazines partially because they are a very high margin accessory (assembled mags cost $4-8), and because pistols are especially sensitive to magazine configuration, specifically the grip angle and feed lip angle combo, and it ought to be more reliable if you control all aspects of feeding.
     
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    This has gone too far

     
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