Soy is Evil Plant Semen

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  1. Manko

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    Looked at a bunch of stuff at the mall today and the amount of soy is horrific. Almost anything not in its primary form has it.

    @Rudy kanji for it is 大豆
     
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    As in the states, perimeter-only shopping is the best to avoid the garbage and get all the power nutrition.
     
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    Yeah, ended up walking out with eggs, milk, bread, butter, bacon, hamburger, pork roast, carrots, potatoes, onions. Found a new kind of curry paste in a tube for stir fry and soups, and 2 tubes of my fav hot pepper/garlic paste.
     
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    Isn't it just unfermented soy that's the problem?
     
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    Nope it's everything. Some of the processed forms are "much less" so even if they can claim it's 10x less estrogenic it's still 500x more estrogenic than eating regular beans. Soy in any form is an utter disaster for anyone with a Y chromosome. Women can eat the processed stuff in small quantities without an issue.
     
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    I read a bunch of articles in Japanese about soy allergies. The Japanese are saying that soy allergies are on the rise. Of course, they claim that their national darling of health foods, natto, is low in risk because it is cooked & fermented. (They also claim that natto cures cancer etc., it's a national snake oil delusion on a grand scale.) But, my sources were not exactly matching on the subject, and the most reliable source (Otsuka Pharmaceuticals) was saying natto is a no-go. Fine for me, I'd never eat the smelly bean snot anyway.

    The number that all sources gave was 5-6% of people with allergies are cross-allergic to soy.
    That's got me thinking that I want to go on an elimination diet and see how it goes.

    A thing that I saw a lot of in food was soy being included as a preservative or stabilizer. This is leading me to wonder really how much of an irritative immune response could be caused by soy? I've done elimination diets of various kinds (coffee, chocolate, nuts, etc.) to try and pin down headache triggers, but I never tried a soy elimination.
     
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    Is natto the beans covered in snot thing?
     
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    Japan just can't take the hint from Korea, they eat kimchi every day which is one of the most legitimate power foods on the planet.
     
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    They have loads of kimchi here, cheap and good, even imported from Korea. Eat it all the time.
     
  11. SimplyXY

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    The Soy Deep State
    http://roguehealthandfitness.com/deep-soy-state/
    More at the link
     
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    Awesome ebook shill at the end, I didn't see it coming even though the site is clickbait. I mean it too!

    Today I went to a Costco and while someone else was putting an order in I got to walk around for about an hour just browsing the aisles. Mountains of soy! It's in everything there! Any sort of cereal or bar, definitely soy. If it's fitness related convenience food like protein bars and shakes it's twice as bad. Innocent looking products like cheese were no exception. Kroger can be pretty bad but percentage-wise Costco was easily the soy king. Walmart may even be better.

    The strongest link I can find to exposure is falling victim to convenience foods. Sorry no way around it you have to learn how to cook at least a handful of meals so you can have a consistent base of real food to eat.
     
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